2012 Preseason news

Team fees for the 50+ League are $600, make checks payable to Elk Grove Park District care of Mike Wick.

Team fees for the 60+ League are $550, make checks payable to Joe DeLorenzo, who will consolidate all fees into one payment to the park district.

Managers meetings were held for both leagues on Feb 27. Notes will be distributed via email.

The 50+ league needs new board members. Those interested can contact Joe Meister or Mark Olita at joemeister@sbcglobal.net or mark.olita@comcast.net .

A new 50+ league has been formed for those who like 12 inch ball, playing on Thursdays 6-7-8-9pm on field #4. So far there are 5 teams. Individuals or teams that want to join can contact Dennis Ziegler at packerzeke@comcast.net .

Volunteers are needed to help with the Special Olympics. 6 events beginning in April and ending in September. See me or Jim Heffern if you are interested.

Watch this spot for further news.

2011 Season Summary

Some scores are missing from playoff games, email me if you know those scores.

Congratulations to Code Blue for an undefeated season and playoff champions, coming from behind in the last inning to edge the Grabbers.

Playoff semifinals Sept 12, 7pm
Field 1 Code Blue 5, 16 Inchers 0
Field 2 Grabbers 7 vs. Lucky Stiffs 1
Field 3 Phoenix vs. GOB or MV
Field 4 Roaches vs. School's Out
8pm Finals
Field 1 championship game Code Blue defeated Grabbers
Field 2 consolation bracket final

Playoffs August 29, 7pm-8pm
Field 1 Code Blue 6, Backwash 5, Phoenix 6, Wise Guys 0
Field 2 Grabbers 7, Grumpies 6, School's Out 5, Scandal 0
Field 3 Lucky Stiffs 7, Orange Crush 6, Roaches beat Oldies But Goodies
Field 4 16 Inchers 13, Unknowns 8, Good Ole Boys vs. Mudville

Final Standings 50+ League
Code Blue 15-0
Grabbers 11-4
Lucky Stiffs 10-5
16 Inchers 10-5
Unknowns 10-5
Orange Crush 9-6
Grumpies 8-7
Backwash 7-8
Phoenix 7-8
Scandal 7-8
Roaches 7-8
Good Ole Boys 6-9
Mudville 5-10
Oldies But Goodies 4-11
School's Out 3-12
Wise Guys 0-15

August 22 results
Lucky Stiffs 9, Oldies But Goodies 2
Scandal 8, School's Out 4
Code Blue 16, Mudville 3
Good Ole Boys 5, Grabbers 4
Backwash 9, Orange Crush 5
Unknowns 15, Wise Guys 0
16 Inchers 12, Grumpies 1
Phoenix 7, Roaches 5

August 15 results
Phoenix 13, School's Out 1
Unknowns 7, Roaches 0Scandal 10, Mudville 5
Orange Crush 18, Lucky Stiffs 3
Grabbers 13, Oldies But Goodies 5
Code Blue 4, 16 Inchers 3
Backwash 16, Wise Guys 1
Good Ole Boys 12, Grumpies 11
Roaches 16, Good Ole Boys 1

August 1 results
Backwash 16, Oldies But Goodies 1
Code Blue 9, School's Out 1
Phoenix 18, Scandal 2
Unknowns 12, Orange Crush 11
Grumpies 10, Mudville 6
Lucky Stiffs 10, Good Ole Boys 4
Grabbers 6, 16 Inchers 5
Roaches 15, Wise Guys 0

July 25 results
Lucky Stiffs 12, 16 Inchers 9
Scandal 10, Roaches 5
Orange Crush 19, Wise Guys 4
Grabbers 11, Mudville 2
Unknowns 14, Oldies But Goodies 3
Code Blue 4, Phoenix 3
Backwash 16, Good Ole Boys 1
School's Out 13, Grumpies 9

July 18 results
Mudville 5, Lucky Stiffs 3
Code Blue 8, Scandal 1
Roaches 11, Orange Crush 3
Backwash 3, 16 Inchers 2
Grumpies 20, Phoenix 5
Oldies But Goodies 16, Wise Guys 6
Grabbers 7, School's Out 6
Unknowns 16, Good Ole Boys 11

July 11 results
Lucky Stiffs 6, School's Out 5
Code Blue 6, Roaches 5
Good Ole Boys 7, Wise Guys 6
Orange Crush 15, Oldies But Goodies 5
16 Inchers 8, Unknowns 1
Grabbers 7, Phoenix 5
Grumpies 10, Scandal 9
Backwash 14, Mudville 1

June 27 results
Lucky Stiffs 10, Phoenix 8
16 Inchers 15, Wise Guys 0
Unknowns 9, Mudville 2
Roaches 5, Oldies But Goodies 2
Backwash 17, School's Out 7
Code Blue 13, Grumpies 8
Orange Crush 17, Good Ole Boys 6
Grabbers 10, Scandal 5

June 20 results
Code Blue 9, Good Ole Boys 5 (continued from April 25)
Code Blue 7, Grabbers 2
Mudville 13, Wise Guys 1
Lucky Stiffs 5, Scandal 3
Unknowns 14, School's Out 4
Oldies But Goodies 7, Good Ole Boys 3
Grumpies 14, Roaches 1
16 Inchers 1, Orange Crush 0 (wow)
Phoenix 7, Backwash 2

June 13 results
Roaches - Good Ole Boys (postponed)
School's Out 10, Wise Guys 3
Scandal 5, Backwash 3
Orange Crush 15, Mudville 7
Code Blue 6, Lucky Stiffs 3
16 Inchers 10, Oldies But Goodies 4
Unknowns 10, Phoenix 8
Grumpies 12, Grabbers 8

June 6 results
Unknowns 11, Scandal 10 (8 innings)
Orange Crush 17, School's Out 3
Phoenix 18, Wise Guys 3
16 Inchers 10, Good Ole Boys 0
Grabbers 14, Roaches 2
Code Blue 20, Backwash 10
Mudville 13, Oldies But Goodies 7
Lucky Stiffs 16, Grumpies 3

May 23 results
Orange Crush 3, Phoenix 2
Grumpies 16, Backwash 14
Grabbers 14, Lucky Stiffs 5
Code Blue 19, Unknowns 2
Good Ole Boys 17, Mudville 8
Roaches 8, 16 Inchers 7
Scandal 11, Wise Guys 1
Oldies But Goodies 10, School's Out 5

May 16 results
Phoenix 11, Oldies But Goodies 3
Grumpies 8, Unknowns 4
Scandal 14, Orange Crush 8
16 Inchers 20, Mudville 4
School's Out 15, Good Ole Boys 14
Lucky Stiffs 11, Roaches 10
Code Blue 15, Wise Guys 1
Grabbers 11, Backwash 8

May 9 results
Mudville 5, Roaches 2
Lucky Stiffs 10, Backwash 4
Roaches 8, School's Out 4
Code Blue 7, Orange Crush 2
16 Inchers 15, School's Out 2
Oldies But Goodies 12, Grumpies 5
Scandal 8, Oldies But Goodies 7
Grabbers 11, Unknowns 5
Lucky Stiffs 17, Wise Guys 1
Grumpies 15, Wise Guys 3
Good Ole Boys 6, Phoenix 1
Phoenix 5, Mudville 4

May 2 results
Code Blue 7, Oldies But Goodies 3
Unknowns 10, Lucky Stiffs 7
16 Inchers 11, Phoenix 10
Grabbers 19, Wise Guys 3
Roaches 14, Backwash 13
Good Ole Boys 18, Scandal 15
Mudville 10, School's Out 4
Orange Crush 11, Grumpies 4

April 25 results
Orange Crush 4, Grabbers 3
Backwash 11, Unknowns 4
Code Blue 5, Good Ole Boys 5 (called off for rain after 5 innings)
16 Inchers 8, Scandal 3
other games called off for rain, to be made up May 9 at 9pm

60+ League Playoffs - finals Sept 12
Barons 6, Mavericks 4

August 29 semifinals
Barons 4, Silver Dawgs 1
Mavericks 6, Old Dawgs 3

August 22 quarterfinals
Barons 17, Friars 2
Silver Dawgs 9, Code Blue 6
Old Dawgs 8, Good Ole Huffers 7
Mavericks 9, OFOG 3

Semifinals Aug 29, 6pm
Barons vs. Silver Dawgs, Field 1
Mavericks vs. Old Dawgs, Field 4

Finals Sept 12 (no games on Labor Day)

Final Standings 60+ League
Barons 12-2 (seed 1)
Mavericks 12-2 (seed 2)
Old Dawgs 9-5 (seed 3)
Code Blue 9-5 (seed 4)
Silver Dawgs 7-7 (seed 5)
Good Old Huffers 4-10 (seed 6)
OFOG 3-11 (seed 7)
Friars 0-14 (seed 8)

August 15 results
OFOG 8, Good Ole Huffers 7
Old Dawgs 6, Friars 4
Code Blue 6, Silver Dawgs 4
Barons 10, Mavericks 9

August 1 results
Barons 10, Good Old Huffers 6
Old Dawgs 21, Code Blue 6
Mavericks 11, Silver Dawgs 2
OFOG 12, Friars 3

July 25 results
Silver Dawgs 13, Good Ole Huffers 6
Barons 17, Friars 12
Mavericks 7, Code Blue 2
Old Dawgs 12, OFOG 1

July 18 results
Barons 1, OFOG 0 (8 innings)
Mavericks 9, Old Dawgs 8
Silver Dawgs 10, Friars 4
Code Blue 15, Good Ole Huffers 10

July 11 results
Code Blue 10, Friars 3
Mavericks 6, Good Old Huffers 5
Silver Dawgs 5, OFOG 1
Old Dawgs 10, Barons 7

June 27 results
Code Blue 16, OFOG 4
Old Dawgs 8, Good Old Huffers 7 (10 innings)
Mavericks 24, Friars 7
Barons 18, Silver Dawgs 11

June 20 results
Code Blue 10, Barons 5
Mavericks 12, OFOG 2
Old Dawgs 2, Silver Dawgs 0
Good Old Huffers 20, Friars 1

June 13 results
Barons 10, Mavericks 5
Good Old Huffers 10, OFOG 2
Code Blue 7, Silver Dawgs 3
Old Dawgs 12, Friars 8

June 6 results
Mavericks 7, Silver Dawgs 5
Barons 5, Good Old Huffers 1
Old Dawgs 10, Code Blue 6
OFOG 11, Friars 6

May 23 results
Old Dawgs 11, OFOG 3
Barons 16, Friars 5
Silver Dawgs 9, Good Old Huffers 3
Mavericks 19, Code Blue 2

May 16 results
Mavericks 4, Old Dawgs 2
Silver Dawgs 11, Friars 3
Barons 14, OFOG 5
Code Blue 17, Good Old Huffers 8

May 9 results
Mavericks 11, Good Old Huffers 0
Barons 4, Old Dawgs 3
Silver Dawgs 10, OFOG 3
Code Blue 9, Friars 1

May 2 results
Code Blue 14, OFOG 4
Mavericks 14, Friars 3
Good Old Huffers 5, Old Dawgs 4
Barons 9, Silver Dawgs 5

April 25 results
Silver Dawgs 6, Old Dawgs 1
Mavericks 15, OFOG 0
Good Old Huffers 10, Friars 3
Barons 18, Code Blue 4

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Notes from Over 50/60 Manager’s meeting, April 13, 2010

14 of 16 teams from the Over 50 league were represented at this meeting, from the Over 60 league 4 of 6 were present.

No issues were brought up for the Over 60 league. Printed schedules were handed out.

For the Over 50 league, ten teams favored one large 16 team league, two favored two divisions with teams selected at random, and two favored two divisions with stronger teams all in the same division. Final decision is one large 16 team division

Printed schedules were handed out for the Over 50 league, identical to the Over 50 schedule which was emailed to managers on April 13. This will be the official schedule. Extra paper copies are available upon request.

League games begin April 26 for both leagues.

Managers unanimously agreed any team that has not yet submitted a roster by the first game will forfeit games until the roster is submitted. Changes can be made up to June 30.

Roster copies were handed out to each team with indications of players already having photocopies of driver’s licenses (DL’s) on file. Managers are asked to provide missing DL’s as soon as possible.

Several ideas were brought forth on how to deal with game situations involving rostered players who have not submitted a DL. Consensus was any challenge to a player’s eligibility should be made at the field, and if the player in question is shown to be on the roster (managers must have rosters at every game), that player must prove eligibility by showing his driver’s license at that time to avoid a forfeit, and send a photocopy to the commissioner if it is not already on file.

Majority of managers agreed that photocopies of driver’s licenses can be accepted even if the face is not legible, as long as name and date of birth are legible.

Majority of managers agreed that games should proceed even if the umpire does not show up on time. Volunteer umps such as field maintenance people have done a reasonably good job in the past, and this is preferable to rescheduling games, especially for those who drive a long distance for games. We will continue to report problems with umpires to the Park District.

Playoff structure is not yet finalized.

Commish

2009 season

Over 60 championship
Good Old Huffers 5, Barons 4

Over 50 championship
FOG 9, Backwash 5

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The Over 60 rules will be a separate document from the over 50 rules. Differences for over 60 rules will be underlined. Managers have a draft of these rules.

Highlights of over 60 rule differences:

All players bat (over 50 rules changed this)
Courtesy runners may also be used for batters to first base.
No tags at home plate.
Other rules are same as the over 50 rules.

Here are notes from the over 50 managers' meeting and subsequent Board responses (in parentheses).

In the interest of fairness, teams having more players in attendance than their opponents have the option to play the same number of players as their opponents. Players not in the starting lineup are not eligible to enter the game at all unless there is an injury to a starter. (Board says last sentence is too restrictive, free substitution should be allowed for the same spot in the batting order. Also the rule will be stricken for requiring everyone to play 3 innings in the field).

The list of Rules is too big, eliminate any topic that is the same as regular ASA rules. (Board says boiler plate statements will be eliminated, but topics will remain if they give solutions to potential arguments).

If tags are allowed on all other basepaths, the catcher should also be allowed to tag runners going to home plate if the throw pulls them away from the plate. (Board agrees)

Since it is OK for runners to run past a base without touching it, there is no need to have a runner’s home plate, just run to the side of it also. The runner’s home plate gets slippery when moist. (Board says we will continue to have the runners home plate, and also require runners to touch the orange first base).

The idea of having a half way commitment point for runners going from third base to home should also apply to other bases. The umpire should be able to determine if the runner clearly went more than half way to the next base without having to draw lines in the dirt. Runners who have not yet gone half way to the next base can go back to the prior base, but are closed out from advancing if there is an overthrow after the next base has already been touched with ball in hand. (Board agrees)

Roster size – after pros and cons of open rosters and reduced roster sizes were discussed, most managers chose 20 as an appropriate limit. (Board recommends 17)

Despite arguments resulting from last year’s rule change allowing pitchers to take one step off the rubber directly backward prior to delivering the pitch, this was still preferred over the older rule of keeping one foot on the rubber while delivering the pitch. (Board disagrees, too many arguments, go back to original rule of keeping one foot on rubber until pitch is delivered).

Pitcher hesitations and two steps off the rubber were each discussed, but did not have majority support. (Board agrees with majority)

To deter quick pitches, pitchers should start with both feet on the rubber. (Board agrees)

All illegal pitches should be live balls, batters have the option to swing even if a pitcher hesitates or steps sideways off the rubber. (Board agrees)

Unlimited arch pitching rule was discussed, but consensus was to keep the 6’ – 12’ rule. (Board agrees)

Establishing a batter’s box was discussed, but the consensus was to have no batter’s box. However, a batter should be called out if he steps on the plate while swinging. (Board agrees)

Lower fees are preferred over having prize money that would result in higher fees. (Board agrees)

The possibility of starting the league in mid April was discussed, but consensus was to start in the last week of April with no practice game on the first day as was done in some past years. (Board agrees)

The majority of managers prefer to keep the 5 run rule and slaughter rule in effect for playoffs, the same as done for the regular season. (Board agrees)

One big league is preferred over having two separate divisions. (Board is OK with that, but is open to changing for 2010 season if 8 teams prefer recreational rules while 8 other teams prefer more competitive rules - example: We are going to kick your butt, and after that we will also play some softball).

Playoffs will be single elimination with all teams competing. (Board agrees, but with some creative seeding changes)

Courtesy runners should be the last batted out, even if the same runner is used more than once in the same inning. (Board says a courtesy runner should not have to run more than once per inning).

Rules that are hard to enforce, the so-called “Honors System”, should be spelled out in a separate section of the Rules. Violations can be a forfeit for the first offense, and team expulsion from the league for second offense. (Board agrees)

Changing baseline distance from 55 to 60 was discussed, consensus was to keep it at 55 feet. (Board agrees)
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